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  Why I think the Borg will have another enemy soon.

  by Mindchild in

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  there is that old story i'm reminded of sometimes about the world being full of three types of people.

  the people who make things happen, the people who watch things happen, and the people who have no idea of what is going on.

  i thought you might want to at least be in the second catagory so i wanted to share something i found interesting with you.. i have two short poems and a short story for you to read below, and if you care to read these you might find something quite remarkable about them.. long years have passed.

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  Extremely interesting post MindChild! I love this stuff and thx alot for sharing. Awesome!
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  Recent JW EXPEDITIONS TO MOUNT ARARAT

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  despite the apparent redundancy, i would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective.

  around 1996 i came in contact with a jw pioneer named "francesco annunziata" from naples, italy.. francesco was involved with a man (inactive jw) named angelo palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to mt.

  ararat searching the famous ahora gorge for remnants of the ark.. the majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.. i posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood.

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  Hey MOX:

  Long time no discuss. Listen, I have NEVER heard anything about Palego doctoring anything. If that is true, send me the reference. Like I said in the beginning, I am planning to contact these guys again and would like to know the real scoop and have a reference ready, if necessary.

  My sister (still lives in Italy) told me that they made major headlines and were the scientific "rave" for awhile. I would like to have the most recent informaiton and facts. I will check and do a follow-up. Please post your reference in the meantime, I would appreciate it. Thx Mox!
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  Recent JW EXPEDITIONS TO MOUNT ARARAT

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  despite the apparent redundancy, i would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective.

  around 1996 i came in contact with a jw pioneer named "francesco annunziata" from naples, italy.. francesco was involved with a man (inactive jw) named angelo palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to mt.

  ararat searching the famous ahora gorge for remnants of the ark.. the majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.. i posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood.

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  Eddie:

  You said:

  "Uto, even I can tell thats a touched up photo...lol"

  eddie
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  Have you visited the site to examine the different angles and approaches used in the photography? Are you familiar with photographic techniques? Are you an expert in imaging?

  How powerful, discreet and exact is your vision? Do your eyes have the ability to seprate pixels in a computer image? Believe me Eddie, I am very skeptical too. But I know these guys. Their JW status is NOT a factor, nor the primary issue. As a matter of fact, back in 1997, Francesco and I had a month long argument about the value of finding anything on Ararat.

  I argued that if the bible was true, and Jesus walked the earth and the world is still confused about religion, what good would finding the Ark do, other than start controversy, invite skepticism? I advised him to use whatever he found to jump start his archaeological/scientific career and forget about the vindication of Jehovah's name thing. I told him at the very least he might make some money.

  That's my two cents. But, at least I made a thorough examination and I can vouch for both fellows.
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  The Improbability of God

  by gravedancer in

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  irishmen blow each other up in his name.

  arabs blow themselves up in his name.

  imams and ayatollahs oppress women in his name.

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  The answer is quite simple and very brief. Why do people believe in a supreme being?

  FEAR OF DEATH and FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN and SUPERSTITION
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  Recent JW EXPEDITIONS TO MOUNT ARARAT

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  despite the apparent redundancy, i would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective.

  around 1996 i came in contact with a jw pioneer named "francesco annunziata" from naples, italy.. francesco was involved with a man (inactive jw) named angelo palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to mt.

  ararat searching the famous ahora gorge for remnants of the ark.. the majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.. i posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood.

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  Sorry, here is a much better picture for those of you who are still interested in this subject:
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  Recent JW EXPEDITIONS TO MOUNT ARARAT

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  despite the apparent redundancy, i would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective.

  around 1996 i came in contact with a jw pioneer named "francesco annunziata" from naples, italy.. francesco was involved with a man (inactive jw) named angelo palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to mt.

  ararat searching the famous ahora gorge for remnants of the ark.. the majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.. i posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood.

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  Utopian Reformist

  Here is a sample photo from the Rezzonico Expedition:

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  "This photo was shot in August 24 - 1993 by the Palego -Rezzonico expedition, while they were prisoners of Kurd guerillas at 3500 m level 27 days, near Kop Lake, just in front of "Parrot Glacier". It shows piece D broken into two pieces."
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  Recent JW EXPEDITIONS TO MOUNT ARARAT

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  despite the apparent redundancy, i would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective.

  around 1996 i came in contact with a jw pioneer named "francesco annunziata" from naples, italy.. francesco was involved with a man (inactive jw) named angelo palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to mt.

  ararat searching the famous ahora gorge for remnants of the ark.. the majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.. i posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood.

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  Utopian Reformist

  Greetings All:

  Despite the apparent redundancy, I would like to introduce the subject from a different perspective. Around 1996 I came in contact with a JW pioneer named "Francesco Annunziata" from Naples, Italy.

  Francesco was involved with a man (inactive JW) named Angelo Palego, with whom he has made several expeditions to Mt. Ararat searching the famous Ahora Gorge for remnants of the Ark.

  The majority of the more technical and geological/scientific information is in italian, but there is enough information posted in english to merit attention.

  I posted this subject in an effort to move away from discussing the flood, size of the flood and/or location of the flood. Since water-borne disasters do occur naturally on this planet, I thought it was redundant to continue expanding that theme. Here is something fresher:

  http://www.r-j.it/noahark/frame_main.htm

  I haven't spoken with Francesco since 1999, and I will re-establish communication with him ASAP for updates and comments. Enjoy!
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  NY Telecom & Wonder Woman 77

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  while it may be "politically correct" to jump all over nytelecom, let's face it, how many of you actually laughed at his post, before recomposing yourself and deciding to "grab a rope" and join the lynch mob?

  i wonder who will be honest.

  i am not a fan of nytelecom or fredhall or madapostate.

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  Lisa:

  You're right. WW77 has NEVER made such jokes or authorized anyone to engage in that type of humor. I know that.

  By mentioning some popular examples of celebrities who unofficially gave license for such humor, I was hoping to solidify my point of not taking things so seriously and that we are all different and flawed, and not to succumb to personal, self-effacing scrutiny, because of external criticism.

  Yes I did laugh. I also know that alot of other people did too! I just had the gumption to try to make a learning experience out of it, rather than just let simple male immaturity go to waste.

  Perhaps you are stronger than I am. Perhaps the sub-conscious "triggers" that activate humor in me are many and frivolous, immature and childish like NYT. I don't think it's frequent, or permanent however.

  I don't know WW77 on a personal basis. I applaude you for defending her rights and for displaying your solidarity. If I were WW77 I would thank you.

  Now, I am sorry my weakness overcame me, but that is all I can offer to WW77. I have hidden my nose from view, grown extra long hair, worn hats, worn glasses all in an effort to avoid the same occasional, spontaneous immaturity. It didn't work, nor make it less painfull.

  I don't know what the most correct answer is, I only know a few methods for living through the moment and moving forward.

  Lisa, I always appreciate and respect your comments and thx alot!
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  Giving Up Smoking

  by ballistic in

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  i'm giving up smoking on the 22nd.

  it will be the third time, but this time as part of a government sponsored training course with drugs and patches supplied etc.

  anyone else given up and got any helpfull advise?.

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  Utopian Reformist

  Three million cheers and a giant hurrah for Ballistic!
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  Giving Up Smoking

  by ballistic in

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  i'm giving up smoking on the 22nd.

  it will be the third time, but this time as part of a government sponsored training course with drugs and patches supplied etc.

  anyone else given up and got any helpfull advise?.

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  Utopian Reformist

  However you accomplish your goal, I am proud of you and wish you complete and permanent success!

  Keep the money and spend it well and enjoy many more years of health and just like the WTBS, give the tobacco companies what they really deserve!